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I'm curious... Are you working in a field that suits you? That makes the best use of your intellectual ability?
Or do you grow tired of resolving everyone else's problems only to see your hard work fall by the wayside because they (the other people involved) didn't follow-through with the plan, and work instead in a position in which you pretty much only have to worry about your own responsibilities? (Most people say they want to improve something in their lives, but aren't willing to change the attitudes and behaviors that hold them back.)
I'm an Organizational Management Consultant.
Or do you grow tired of resolving everyone else's problems only to see your hard work fall by the wayside because they (the other people involved) didn't follow-through with the plan, and work instead in a position in which you pretty much only have to worry about your own responsibilities? (Most people say they want to improve something in their lives, but aren't willing to change the attitudes and behaviors that hold them back.)
I'm an Organizational Management Consultant.
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Re: How do you earn a living?
Thu, November 4, 2004 - 8:00 PMI'm an Architect. I used to be an accountant. I took the MB and discovered that I was INTJ which only confirmed that I should go back to architecture school for a masters. And yes, I enjoy it for all the reasons that get INTJs off. Of course only being the president of the United States would make the best use of my intellectual abilities, right? Afterall, WE ARE THE INTJs! We are suppose to be running the place right? (maniac laugh)...
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Re: How do you earn a living?
Fri, November 5, 2004 - 11:01 AMCurrently, I own and operate a boutique think tank. I still spend time solving other people's problems (which I can walk away from after they're solved, on my way to the bank), but the rest of my time is spent solving problems of my own choosing. I even get to collaborate with my INTJ spouse on some of the work.
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Fri, November 5, 2004 - 9:30 PMBoutique think tank...what kinds of problems?
Has anyone ever heard the phrase, "A ready mind."
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Sat, November 6, 2004 - 12:05 AM"Boutique think tank...what kinds of problems?"
Off the top of my head, my time has recently been occupied with rhetorical consulting for attorneys, law practice management consulting, small business management consuting, historical research, nutritional recipe design (and testing!), educational RPG design & development, sensor network architectures for non-invasive medical diagnosis, ontology of complex systems, agent-based modelling of language change, and the design of a data mining and visualization engine for a large archive of parapsychological trial data.
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Sun, November 7, 2004 - 6:07 AMAwe yeah, love that sophist stuff. Gotta work those fallacies like nobody knows. Your think tank sounds perfect for an INTJ or ADD. Sounds like it would be fun to collaborate.
Give me a shout if you want input while in orbit around architecture (the built environment) or financial back-room processes (I was in capital markets accounting for years, saved their ass once or twice). -
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Re: How do you earn a living?
Sun, November 7, 2004 - 7:53 PMand give me a call if you ever need a creative monster for a fresh view or new idea...
www.williamcruz.com
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Fri, November 12, 2004 - 2:42 AMI am a professional entertainer, a PA, and a computer tech. I like to do several things, this way I don't really get bored of one. -
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Re: How do you earn a living?
Fri, November 12, 2004 - 1:17 PMWow. I'm new here. .. Hi, Everyone!
I thought that I was a straight up INFP until I spent some time reading the posts here. Now I think that I am an INFP/INTJ wobbler :)
I feel like I have ADD when it comes to career direction. I went to law school and, most likely, am going to begin practicing law in the new year. However, I have dreams of doing so much more. . . I'm not a musician or an artist per se, but music and art are very important to me. Expanding the resources/experiences available to low income people is also important to me. . . I want to blend it all!!!
Also, Mark, I agree that your think tank sounds heavenly! -
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Fri, November 12, 2004 - 7:23 PMI was a computer trainer and now I'm working on a Green (sustainable business) MBA. That's an MBA for thinking people. ;) I have a previous Masters in Library and Information Science. I'm not a professional student, just an INTJ!
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Sat, November 20, 2004 - 9:25 AMI'm curious about how many of us consider ourselves workaholocs or have been diagnosed as workaholics.
I think of myself as one in recovery. Spent three years busting my ass on this new career and realized how I let my social life suffer. Spent this last year and so correcting all that. yep, the first weekend that I decided not to go into work was difficult, like a junkie withdrawal. Whew. Now there is a balance. -
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Sun, November 28, 2004 - 7:42 PMI am a computer engineer, project manager, and software engineer. A few years ago I stopped because it was getting very boring and I became a photographer. I also work on software products at home.
I was a horrible workaholic. Now I have two dogs to moderate my life. -
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Re: How do you earn a living?
Mon, November 29, 2004 - 9:33 AMSounds like many people, not just INTJs, are moderating their life. It sucks to work your ass off, get no mental stimulation, only to earn a paycheck. I am gradually getting out of high-tech and software development. I will probably become a personal trainer, go back to school, or give a shot at acting. -
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Mon, November 29, 2004 - 11:20 AM<<It sucks to . . . get no mental stimulation>>
Are you sure that personal trainer is the way to go? :) -
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Mon, November 29, 2004 - 11:26 AMYeah, I DO have social skills. haha. -
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Mon, November 29, 2004 - 11:35 AMYes, the ability to chat about anything is critical to personal trainers. . . at least from what I have observed at all my different gyms. -
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Mon, November 29, 2004 - 11:43 AMYeah, and the ability to track progress, make plans, etc. That part is pretty cool. -
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Mon, November 29, 2004 - 11:49 AMYeah, it is. . . worked out at Gold's Venice for too many years and saw that the good trainers were almost invisible while the gossipy trainers who paid little attention to the progress of their clients were the more popular. . . .Me. . . jaded. . . naw
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Wed, December 1, 2004 - 7:10 AMI was trained as a theoretical physicist. The good thing about physics is you can do anything. The bad thing is you have to. I worked in computational physics for DoD contractor, NASA, Tektronix, Boeing. I'm reitred now and back on the trail of quantum gravity, albeit as a hobby.
Nut as a gay man, these are emotionally unfulfilling. Choral music keeps me sane, but isn't a source of income., less of a problem now.
Enjoying travel and the fine arts.
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Wed, October 18, 2006 - 6:44 AMMy current job description states I am a computer mainframe operator. I have yet to locate the mainframe. I do alot of data entry and provide custom database/spreadsheet solutions for a major DOD contractor on a military installation. I also have a part time job as a retail clothing sales associate. I really can't pinpoint what suits me and am always looking for a challenge or something new. Here is a list of the types of employment I have held.
Delivery driver, mailroom clerk, carpenter, bricklayer, roofer, bus boy, short order cook, security guard, soldier(US Army), computer programmer, database administrator, long-haul truck driver, recruiter, quality control tech and mental health case manager.
Organizational Management sounds fun, need any help?
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Mon, December 18, 2006 - 1:06 PMI own a small franchise real estate brokerage (long story how I got here-been in real estate in one form or another for last 12 years) . I enjoy many aspects of the business- we provide an excellent service for a low set fee, but tire quickly of the "sales BS". Mostly I enjoy setting up systems, calling the shots, and overseeing negotiations. My assistant recently quit to have a baby and I am doing too much of the mundane day to day admin work until I hire a replacement- ugh!
My background is engineering and manufacturing. I enjoy making things and designing systems. I'm thinking of getting six sigma black belt certified and doing some consulting which appeals to me. Some days I really feel like a square peg in a round hole.
A list of my job titles
Recording engineer
Electrical engineer
Quality Engineer
Quality Manager
GM- Start up Manufacturing
Quality/Reliability Engineer
Director of Quality
Plant Manager -2x
General Manager- Mfg co
Property Manager - Rehabber
Real estate Broker
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Re: How do you earn a living?
Fri, January 26, 2007 - 3:31 AMI'm new to this tribe, so I guess this is a good topic to start on. Every online M-B type test I've ever taken has indicated that I'm an INTJ type, so I guess I must be one.
It dosen't really suit me or make full use of my intellectual ability, but I'm a computer programmer of the old school COBOL mainframe dinosaur species. There is some mental stimulation involved, writing programs is like playing logic games, but after over 20 years it's mostly boring routine. I'm an independent consultant working mostly on a per-project basis, so by the time I really get tired of something it's usually over with. Back when I was an employee, the longest job I ever had was 2 years, and the longest I ever stayed at one contract was 4 years, but the average has been probably a year to 18 months. The last couple of years I've only worked half the year, and had to be away from home for that, which is the worse part.
What often makes me angry is that smooth talking, agressive know-nothings are put in charge of projects where I'm doing most of the work, and I'm the only one that really knows what's going on, but since I don't have an outgoing personality, and am generally out of the mainstream, I'm not listened to, or not taken seriously if I do get heard. On this last project I was on, in status meetings the supposed project manager would mangle the time line, spew out a bunch of wrong or misleading information, and by the time I was finally able to get a word in to get the facts straight, no one was listening. At times like that I wish I has a switch that I could turn on a different personality, then turn it off after the meeting is over.
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Fri, January 26, 2007 - 7:33 AMI supervise a language lab at a local college which means admin/desktop support/research.
My department is a subset of Audio Visual so I do filming, photography, audio and video editing
We report to an academic dean but I deal with the department administrators and hire student workers
We house a video collection so I'm part of the library.
My hats change without notice!
I love it.
And I'm a workaholic because I run a performance troupe on the weekends. :)
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Re: How do you earn a living?
Mon, January 29, 2007 - 1:44 AMI work for an institute that provides services for people with developmental/learning disabilities. The basic idea is that instead of people having to live in a special center or go to a day school, they live in their own place, and the staff goes to them. The details vary, but in general we provide a 24 hour presence, with staff working in three shifts: Morning, Evening and Overnight. I work Overnight shifts, which means that my primary duty is to make sure the client doesn't take off and get into trouble( and, of course, if there's a medical emergency, to provide assistance in that respect, but such occasions are rare).
It's the best job I could have ever hoped for. In addition to doing something genuinely worthwhile, the majority of the time I'm on shift the client is asleep, so I'm free to read, work on comics, watch cartoons etc.
In fact, I'm on shift as I write this.
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Sat, March 24, 2007 - 11:26 AMI've just started studying psychology, parallel to this I'm organizing a rock concerts (this is really enjoyable) Before that: Self Employed, IT Manager Micro-chip fab, Technician building and designing PLC control panels, navigation systems technician. I'm a musician... rock/metal guitar but have switched to bass. I can do and have done almost everything overhauled engines, hack satellite encryption and so on ....anything that comes along basically. I don't do gardening, can't get into it somehow
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Sun, March 25, 2007 - 5:38 PMI am the director of an independent alternative school for adults specializing in interdisciplinary studies. I also administer a program that brings the arts into the lives of people that suffer from mental illness and I am the librarian at the American Visionary Art Museum. I have always felt very fulfilled in my work life which has had much room for innovation and creativity.
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Re: How do you earn a living?
Mon, March 26, 2007 - 5:34 AMHiya tribe hope yall are doing well.
I work in retail.. mostly fashion.. but now I'm working in a tobacconist/gift store. It seemed like a good idea at the time because it was the only store on my side of town that stocked Gudang Garams.. but I quit smoking a couple weeks back, and now I feel really strange handing packets over to the young and old alike.. but ethical dilemmas are the norm.. so I just make sure I bless each and every one ; )
But I've been studying the past few years.. I'm six months shy of an arts degree [languages, history, literature, writing].. I started an architecture degree in 2006 and left that this year to study vet. science which lasted one month because I have no motivation to study at all.
So now I'm concentrating on a portfolio.. I need to make something concrete of my creativity else it drives me to insanity. Well maybe it's too late.. and art is all I have left.. eek!@#$ I'm a runaway train. Is that a career path?
Any passengers?? : ) [Aww.. n I'd look so good with a briefcase in DKNY n pearls..]
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